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Making a Computer.
« on: October 28, 2011, 12:18:36 AM »
So instead of taking over AHP's topic of upgrading a computer I am posting here,
Here are two ideas for computers. One with the help of CaptainWTF. Let me know if you have any ideas/help.
Also anything you notice im missing?

Computer 1 "$1,600":
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133074
Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157264
Graphics Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130661 x2
Power: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371050
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070
Hardrive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231356
Liquid Cooling: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236102
Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181016

Computer 2 "$1,700":
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133074
Hardrive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697
Video Card x2: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130610
Power: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171057
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233146
MOtherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131702
Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070
Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236154
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Re: Making a Computer.
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2011, 07:52:55 AM »
comp 1 links are all screwed up..

This is what I am building tonight... got it all for $1550 the other day with 200+ in instant savings..  I will be able to give you a better opinion after I put it together and get it running tonight.

case :COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197

spare HD: Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697

Vid Card:    GIGABYTE GV-N570OC-13I Rev2.0 GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125384

Power: CORSAIR Professional Series HX750 (CMPSU-750HX) 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

MB: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131730

Proc: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

SSD:    Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442

Cooler: CORSAIR H80 (CWCH80) High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181016
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Re: Making a Computer.
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2011, 07:57:50 AM »
With both builds did you really want 3 DIMMS full (each with 4 GB) on a dual channel motherboard??  In my experience it using 3 DIMMS on a dual channel MB hates being stable. 

I am sad in pants to not see an SSD in there.  I honestly have yet to use an SSD with my OS (until tonight :)) but from what I have been told and read.. it is 10000 times better than using a normal 7200 rpm drive which you have on the list. 

Others may correct me but for the money you are spending a single higher video card will be enough for current games...  in the future you can run SLI with the board you got.  If you get SLI now, you leave yourself unable to upgrade without investing alot more money. 
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Re: Making a Computer.
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2011, 12:31:11 PM »
To be completely honest, I gave my price range to a friend of mine and CaptainWTF helped, and those are the two builds we came up with. I don't know much about what each one does exactly.
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Re: Making a Computer.
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2011, 05:48:29 PM »
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Re: Making a Computer.
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2011, 06:45:44 PM »
Not sure why you're changing everything -.- go back to the build I gave you and just upgrade the video card to the 580.
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Re: Making a Computer.
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2011, 07:06:29 PM »
I went through some reviews and I got a little more money to go up to $1,800 computer.
And other then, "I just don't like that brand" I don't know the difference between Corsair and Ripjaw.
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2011, 07:43:08 PM »
Cross, that HX series Corsair power supply is an awesome unit. I have the 1kw version in my big machine with dual (originally triple) GTX 285's, and it runs cool and stable like no other. It's based on the seasonic design and it's absolutely a flawless unit...

I definitely agree with Cross about the SSD. You cannot build a computer now days and not go with a SSD. You don't need a monster one, but the 120g ones are totally reasonable for what they do.
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Re: Making a Computer.
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2011, 08:34:03 PM »
I boot into windows 7 pro in 6 seconds with my 120GB SSD.....   you cannot beat it.  Get an SSD.
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Re: Making a Computer.
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2011, 09:17:46 PM »
Okay, im going to go with you guys on this one, I trust you more since you have all built your own computers and seem to know your shit.
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2011, 09:22:12 PM »
krovean.. look into the LGA 1155 chipsets...

The MB you have picked has the P67 chipset in it.  The Z68 is a better chipset for that socket..  Look it up.. theres some good comparisons on the 3 chipsets available for the sandybridges and all of them say the Z68 is a better chipset since it has the best of the other 2. 
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Re: Making a Computer.
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2011, 09:29:40 PM »
First of all, thank you everyone for all this help. Being a new computer builder I really have no idea what is good and what is bad. I try reading reviews but all the stuff I am looking at and trying to compare they both say they are good.

So other then that is their any other problem with the MB? Compared to the one Captain suggested for me?

Captains Suggestions:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157264

And Asus z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131760

Is the difference just the brand?
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2011, 09:59:38 PM »
ASUS has bluetooth ASRock does not.

main difference :              ASRock                                                         ASUS

PCI Express 3.0 x16    2 (single at x16, dual at x8)    
PCI Express 2.0 x16    1 @ x4                                                        4 (x16 or dual x8 or x8, x16, x16)


Do you want 4 PCI-E slots??  You are only getting 1 video card which only requires PCI-E 2.0.  I honestly would need to look at other options before I advised you because I am not really sure why you are outputting this much money on the MB when you will not be using the capabilities of the board...

Example :  the functions that you require on the Motherboard can be accomplished by a motherboard thats under $200.  Are you planning to expand the functions later in the computers life?  if so, what do you want to do with it?  I would assume SLI?  do you care if its 16x 16x or 8x 8x?  I do not know much about SLI but I always hated that they cut the channels in half when you stick in another card.  People have this assumption that 2 580 GTXs will give you 100% more power than 1 580 GTX but that is not the case.  If 1 580 GTX gives you 100% then 2 580 GTXs give you probably 130-140%.
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Re: Making a Computer.
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2011, 11:08:16 PM »
What I was planning on doing is later on possibly getting another graphics card later on. And when you say 16x16 and 8x8 are you talking about the dementions of the board it self in inches? If so, no I do not mind if its 8x8 or 16x16 as long as it fits in the case.

And PCI slots are for Video Cards?
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Re: Making a Computer.
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2011, 11:35:49 PM »
Quote from: [IAM] Krovean on October 29, 2011, 11:08:16 PM
What I was planning on doing is later on possibly getting another graphics card later on. And when you say 16x16 and 8x8 are you talking about the dementions of the board it self in inches? If so, no I do not mind if its 8x8 or 16x16 as long as it fits in the case.

And PCI slots are for Video Cards?

PCIE is for video cards, Supports faster transfer speeds = more information goes through = less performance bottlenecks. PCIE is for video cards <--- the ones that are in current production PCI was used and still is somewhat and AGP used to be used but now is not.
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